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livredor
Any friendly classicists out there? [posted by email]
Monday, 29 May 2006 at 08:28 am
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So I'm reading a review about c-Myc and the genes it activates, and I come across the phrase This Laodicean response does not reflect some intrinsic property of the ODC gene. This piqued my curiosity; ok, the review writer is blatantly showing off here, but I consider myself to be as classically knowledgeable as the next biochemist, and I have no idea what he is referring to. I tried Wikipedia, and it tells me that Laodices is an alternate name for Elektra, or any of several minor queens, and that there are several places called Laodicea named after said queens.

So does anyone have a clue why a relatively weak gene response might be described as Laodicean? Other than that the author got over-excited about looking for synonyms for weak in his thesaurus! In some ways it's kind of cute, I must admit, but it's annoying me that I don't recognize the reference.


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lethargic_man: recent
From:lethargic_man
Date:May 29th, 2006 08:44 am (UTC)
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It's not a classical reference, it's a biblical one. Most unusually, this time I get to tell you about a NT reference. (And no, I didn't know it in advance, I just had a hunch.) Revelation 3:14–16 (and further, which I haven't quoted):
And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write [say King James' translators]; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 29th, 2006 09:07 am (UTC)
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The term was brought into English commonplace by Thomas Hardy's novel of that name, about some shilly-shallying heroine torn between romantic idealism and prosaic economic reality.
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livredor: livre d'or
From:livredor
Date:May 29th, 2006 05:39 pm (UTC)
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Thank you, knowledgeable anonymous person. I certainly hadn't heard of that Hardy novel, so you have enlightened me. Would you like to reveal your identity, please?
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sea_bright: default
From:sea_bright
Date:May 29th, 2006 12:38 pm (UTC)
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This is the second consecutive post on my friends-list that called for illumination on something NT-ish, and in neither case was I quick enough off the mark to be the one to reply. *flounces off to sulk in an overly-melodramatic manner*
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lethargic_man: beardy
From:lethargic_man
Date:May 29th, 2006 12:45 pm (UTC)
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Yee-har! The fastest Bible in the west! ;^b
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livredor: hands
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Date:May 29th, 2006 05:40 pm (UTC)
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But you do flounce so wonderfully! If I'd known it was NT I would have asked for help from Christians instead of classicists.
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livredor: Amelie
From:livredor
Date:May 29th, 2006 05:38 pm (UTC)
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Oh, thank you! I can't believe I didn't think of that; I was aware of that passage but had forgotten entirely which place it was associated with. Well done indeed for tracking that down; I was evidently looking in entirely the wrong place.
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