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livredor
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Tuesday, 17 June 2003 at 09:26 am
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Oh look chaps, there's a new bod in the Remove. Who's game to go and rag him?


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darcydodo: default
From:darcydodo
Date:June 17th, 2003 01:54 am (UTC)
21 minutes after journal entry, June 16th, 2003 07:54 pm (darcydodo's time)
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I may just completely ignore that post, as it may not have contained a single grammatical construct that I understood.

(Well, actually it was just 'the Remove' that got me. I did really understand the rest, it was just strange.)
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From:(Anonymous)
Date:June 17th, 2003 02:10 am (UTC)
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Ah, cultural references.

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From:wychwood
Date:June 17th, 2003 02:57 am (UTC)
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If you go to a sufficiently posh school, there may be a form called The Remove. I believe there's one in Tom Brown's Schooldays...

It took me two readings to understand that; really bizarre!
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livredor: default
From:livredor
Date:June 17th, 2003 03:15 am (UTC)
1 hours after journal entry, 03:15 am (livredor's time)
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I can understand your objecting to my playing with register in French, but in English, which is supposed to be your native language?! Did you never read those 'Jane saves the day' type school stories? And no Mallory Towers, no Billy Bunter, no Trebizon, no Jennings, no Chalet School, no Angela Brazil? (Can't remember which of those specifically has a form (always a form, not a year or a class) called the Remove, but anyway, I can't believe you've never come across it before.)
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From:darcydodo
Date:June 17th, 2003 09:49 am (UTC)
8 hours after journal entry, 03:49 am (darcydodo's time)
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Errr... I read Enid Blyton. I think her Naughtiest Girl books haven't got anything called the Remove, or if they have, I completely missed it then or have since forgotten it.
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shreena: default
From:shreena
Date:June 17th, 2003 04:30 am (UTC)
2 hours after journal entry, 04:30 am (shreena's time)
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Should I be scared that I not only understood that but didn't think it was odd at all?
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From:neonchameleon
Date:June 17th, 2003 10:14 am (UTC)
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Livredor: English Public School
You: English Public School
Me: English Public School
Darcy: M****n

Remove form: English public school system. Is it any wonder as to who the person who didn't understand it was?
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livredor: default
From:livredor
Date:June 17th, 2003 10:31 am (UTC)
8 hours after journal entry, 10:31 am (livredor's time)
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Remove form: English public school system
... of 70+ years ago, yes. The style of language I was using has nothing to do with the style of language typical at the school I went to (which, incidentally, barely counts as a 'public school'), and everything to do with a sub-genre of school stories that I read as a kid.

And asterisks only work to fool bots; your comment is still just as offensive to human beings with some of the letters blocked out.
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From:neonchameleon
Date:June 17th, 2003 03:26 pm (UTC)
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And asterisks only work to fool bots; your comment is still just as offensive to human beings with some of the letters blocked out.

More offensive- there is the overt acknowledgement that it is offensive in there. OTOH Darcy can look after herself and if I thought she seriously objected I wouldn't tease her like that (plus revenge can be sweet)
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livredor: default
From:livredor
Date:June 18th, 2003 12:09 am (UTC)
22 hours after journal entry, 12:09 am (livredor's time)

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You know darcydodo considers that term offensive. Using my journal to insult her out of revenge (presumably for her deleting a similar comment from hers) because you know I'm less likely to censor it counts, in my book, as ungentlemanly.

Yes, Darcy can of course look after herself. I am trying to look after my journal though; there's starting to be interesting discussion going on here and I don't want people to feel uncomfortable reading it because they're going to encounter that kind of thing.
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From:shreena
Date:June 17th, 2003 04:31 pm (UTC)
14 hours after journal entry, 04:31 pm (shreena's time)
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I don't understand - what were the *s blocking out?

And I'm with livredor on the Perse not being much of a public school - a provincial private school essentially.
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From:wychwood
Date:June 19th, 2003 01:23 pm (UTC)
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The word is, I suspect, "Merkin". Used for American, though it also has some other bizarre and probably insulting meaning. It originated in alt.fan.pratchett circles, as I understand it.
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ajollypyruvate: Dufflepuds
From:ajollypyruvate
Date:June 23rd, 2003 10:25 pm (UTC)
6 days after journal entry, 02:25 pm (ajollypyruvate's time)
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No, but it may frighten you to know that someone who has never been off the North American continent understood it perfectly on the first read.
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livredor: default
From:livredor
Date:June 24th, 2003 01:14 am (UTC)
6 days after journal entry, 01:14 am (livredor's time)

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Which indeed demonstrates my point that it's not about what school you went to, but what books you read at an impressionable age.

And welcome to my corner of Livejournal, by the way.
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From:ajollypyruvate
Date:June 24th, 2003 02:19 pm (UTC)
7 days after journal entry, 06:19 am (ajollypyruvate's time)

It's true!

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Many of my favourite authors are dead Brits. I blame my mother. ;)

Thanks! I had been wondering how you happened on my journal but I'm happy to be here.
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livredor: default
From:livredor
Date:June 24th, 2003 03:27 pm (UTC)
7 days after journal entry, 03:27 pm (livredor's time)

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I had been wondering how you happened on my journal
Oh, I was, um, procrastinating by doing random searches on interests. I spotted you first because you've listed Karen Armstrong as an interest, and then your handle amused me. That was just about my luckiest 'stick a virtual pin in livejournal' exercise.
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ajollypyruvate: Moomintroll
From:ajollypyruvate
Date:June 26th, 2003 09:39 am (UTC)
9 days after journal entry, 01:39 am (ajollypyruvate's time)

Why, thank you!

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Two of the people on my friends list are there as a result of my avoiding p-chem homework. It's, uh, important for us geek types to have, um, outside interests and, er, meet new people. Yeah, that's right.

Whenever I play the "random user" game I get Russians. Every time! I think they're stalking me. ;)
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livredor: default
From:livredor
Date:June 18th, 2003 01:56 am (UTC)
1 days after journal entry, 01:56 am (livredor's time)

Re: Gaah?

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Let me just make this absolutely clear. My post was in no possible way intended to be a class statement. I apologize unreservedly to anyone I accidentally confused.

I have never used language remotely like that. Nor did anyone at school. Any more than we went around saying 'Fie on thee, jackanapes, for thou hast done a most grievous wrong.'

I think I'll just go away and hide in a corner now.
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From:shreena
Date:June 18th, 2003 02:23 am (UTC)
1 days after journal entry, 02:23 am (shreena's time)

Re: Gaah?

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Awww, don't do that. *hugs* I understood - it was just a retro comment. In the same way as one might quote/allude to 80s childrens' TV you were alluding to the kind of literature that many of us read.
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livredor: default
From:livredor
Date:June 21st, 2003 11:20 am (UTC)
4 days after journal entry, 11:20 am (livredor's time)
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the significance of the 'Remove' form
AIUI, the Remove existed in a system where your progress through the school was only partly tied to your age. It was used to mop up not just dodgy leftovers, but people who were way too bright to be with their own age, but too young to be with people of their own academic level. Or people who had had their schooling disrupted for whatever reason, but were too old to be held back as far as they needed to make up.

Hence lots of school stories tend to be set in the Remove, because you've got plenty of excuses for interesting character background and dynamics. It's quite possible that in real life the Remove was actually full of people who were just too stupid to progress properly through the academic system, but that's not how it's usually portrayed.
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livredor: default
From:livredor
Date:June 21st, 2003 11:23 am (UTC)
4 days after journal entry, 11:23 am (livredor's time)
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By the way, thanks for this piece; you do cynical extremely well. And it's not the kind of situation that gets written about a great deal, so also very interesting.
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